Comments on: Apps or Browsers? Speak Out On The Touch Web; Contribute To Our Collective Vision http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/ At the Intersection of Content & Context Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:54:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: msearchgroove » Blog Archive » Nokia Snaps Up Novarra; oneweb To Rule Them All? http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9863 msearchgroove » Blog Archive » Nokia Snaps Up Novarra; oneweb To Rule Them All? Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:14:25 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9863 [...] mobile and touchscreen Internets – to name a few. (At this juncture, I should mention that I am collaborating with Taptu to connect with executives and influencers to map out the real impact of touchscreen devices on [...] [...] mobile and touchscreen Internets – to name a few. (At this juncture, I should mention that I am collaborating with Taptu to connect with executives and influencers to map out the real impact of touchscreen devices on [...]

]]> By: Belen http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9352 Belen Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:54:33 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9352 I might be missing something here (and excuse my shortsightedness if that's the case), but I cannot see how your mobile touch web it's different from content / device adaptation, apart from the fact that it's a narrower concept since it refers only to a subset of devices. I might be missing something here (and excuse my shortsightedness if that’s the case), but I cannot see how your mobile touch web it’s different from content / device adaptation, apart from the fact that it’s a narrower concept since it refers only to a subset of devices.

]]> By: Martin Wilson http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9229 Martin Wilson Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:35:50 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9229 Peggy, I would question a definition of the touchscreen as a ‘new’ Internet. Touch is an interface, increasingly being deployed to a new range of high end mobile devices. That said a touch interface will have wide ranging implications for many services. Three thoughts: A future mobile environment will be user controlled - Consumers will define what content and features they want and how they want it. Touchscreen will make this easier. Mobile services will be increasingly lifestyle orientated – news, events, information etc... consumers will be able to filter content based on defined preferences, interests and context. Services will dynamically combine content and features from multiple sources -Services will evolve based on ‘Puddles’ or ‘Hubs’ of information, dynamically manipulating and pulling feed-like content and features from different sources based on the user preferences and context. Nested service discovery will become key. Concept of advertising will change to one of ‘Attention’ - Advertising will become integral to services and woven in as content, people will pay with their attention and ultimate actions. There will be skill and understanding required to deliver. Regards, Martin Peggy,

I would question a definition of the touchscreen as a ‘new’ Internet. Touch is an interface, increasingly being deployed to a new range of high end mobile devices. That said a touch interface will have wide ranging implications for many services. Three thoughts:

A future mobile environment will be user controlled – Consumers will define what content and features they want and how they want it. Touchscreen will make this easier. Mobile services will be increasingly lifestyle orientated –
news, events, information etc… consumers will be able to filter content based on defined preferences, interests and context.

Services will dynamically combine content and features from multiple sources -Services will evolve based on ‘Puddles’ or ‘Hubs’ of information, dynamically manipulating and pulling feed-like content and features from different sources based on the user preferences and context. Nested service discovery will become key.

Concept of advertising will change to one of ‘Attention’ – Advertising will become integral to services and woven in as content, people will pay with their attention and ultimate actions. There will be skill and understanding required to deliver.

Regards,
Martin

]]> By: Aage http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9203 Aage Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:59:34 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9203 Cool stuff from Taptu but, as mentioned above, the Internet numbers should be considered. The total growth of Internet domains are growing far more rapidly than the conversion to apps or Mobile Touch sites. https://www.isc.org/solutions/survey. If we calculate positive about 0,01 % (less than 1 out of 10.000 sites) of the Internet services are suited for mobile use and the numbers are still falling. Perhaps this is fine if you can access Google, Facebook and Twitter? But then again - the user will have a poor user experience when they click on shared Internet content. Another reason to emphasize this broader picture is that within the mobile context The Reversed Long Tail is the key to the success. Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/ceymus Cool stuff from Taptu but, as mentioned above, the Internet numbers should be considered. The total growth of Internet domains are growing far more rapidly than the conversion to apps or Mobile Touch sites. https://www.isc.org/solutions/survey. If we calculate positive about 0,01 % (less than 1 out of 10.000 sites) of the Internet services are suited for mobile use and the numbers are still falling. Perhaps this is fine if you can access Google, Facebook and Twitter? But then again – the user will have a poor user experience when they click on shared Internet content. Another reason to emphasize this broader picture is that within the mobile context The Reversed Long Tail is the key to the success. Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/ceymus

]]> By: Carnival of the Mobilists #212 – Terence Eden has a Blog http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9187 Carnival of the Mobilists #212 – Terence Eden has a Blog Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:41:30 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9187 [...] a similar vein, Apps vs Browsers – Peggy Salz is looking for your opinion.  Will the mobile web splinter between touch [...] [...] a similar vein, Apps vs Browsers – Peggy Salz is looking for your opinion.  Will the mobile web splinter between touch [...]

]]> By: Martin Vendel http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9186 Martin Vendel Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:32:09 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9186 Hi Peggy, Are we really getting different Internets? I would say the opposite. What was before called the mobile Internet consisted of a number of specially designed sites in formats such as WAP. The mobile now access ordinary Internet sites but with the issue that they are not really suitable for the mobile format with or without touch screens. Nevertheless, the mobile is growing in importance as an additional window to view and engage with Internet content. The TV is next in line. For each new digital media/channel the same phases are seen. In a first step enthusiastic engineers show what is possible to do. In the next phase the user is looked into a closed environment, but guaranteed that what is delivered really works. And in the last phase the content is decoupled for the hardware and access and the end user is in control. We did see this development for the PC, we have now seen it in the mobile area and we will eventually see it for the TV. However, in each case the content have to be adjusted to the possibilities and limitations of the specific media. It’s still the same Internet and we should not expect that the end user will be satisfied with less than reaching all of Internet independently of media. We are also in a tricky situation regarding how all these different versions of formats and apps drive cost. Is this really sustainable? If the additional costs will limit the expansion to include the whole Internet I would question the long term success. 500,000 touch screen sites may sound like a lot but compared with the total number of Internet sites it’s still quite a low number. Apps or browser based services? The apps presently secures a good user experience but are a closed environment and as browser based services increase in quality this ought to be a winner offering a much more cost efficient solution capable of offering the full long-tail of content. For more views on this and related issue please visit http://universalmobileinterface.wordpress.com/. Regards, Martin Hi Peggy,
Are we really getting different Internets? I would say the opposite. What was before called the mobile Internet consisted of a number of specially designed sites in formats such as WAP. The mobile now access ordinary Internet sites but with the issue that they are not really suitable for the mobile format with or without touch screens. Nevertheless, the mobile is growing in importance as an additional window to view and engage with Internet content. The TV is next in line. For each new digital media/channel the same phases are seen. In a first step enthusiastic engineers show what is possible to do. In the next phase the user is looked into a closed environment, but guaranteed that what is delivered really works. And in the last phase the content is decoupled for the hardware and access and the end user is in control. We did see this development for the PC, we have now seen it in the mobile area and we will eventually see it for the TV. However, in each case the content have to be adjusted to the possibilities and limitations of the specific media. It’s still the same Internet and we should not expect that the end user will be satisfied with less than reaching all of Internet independently of media. We are also in a tricky situation regarding how all these different versions of formats and apps drive cost. Is this really sustainable? If the additional costs will limit the expansion to include the whole Internet I would question the long term success. 500,000 touch screen sites may sound like a lot but compared with the total number of Internet sites it’s still quite a low number. Apps or browser based services? The apps presently secures a good user experience but are a closed environment and as browser based services increase in quality this ought to be a winner offering a much more cost efficient solution capable of offering the full long-tail of content. For more views on this and related issue please visit http://universalmobileinterface.wordpress.com/.
Regards,
Martin

]]> By: Call For Input: Please Help Track The Mobile Touch Ecosystem « Taptu Mobile Search http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9184 Call For Input: Please Help Track The Mobile Touch Ecosystem « Taptu Mobile Search Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:58:19 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9184 [...] participate, go to Peggy’s post and send her an email as described in the bottom of the article. Share and [...] [...] participate, go to Peggy’s post and send her an email as described in the bottom of the article. Share and [...]

]]> By: Apps vs Web « Mobile Wand http://www.msearchgroove.com/2010/02/22/apps-or-browsers-speak-out-on-the-touch-web-contribute-to-our-collective-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-9172 Apps vs Web « Mobile Wand Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:50:44 +0000 http://www.msearchgroove.com/?p=4646#comment-9172 [...] vs Web Over at msearchgroove the discussion on Apps vs Web is raging. My [...] [...] vs Web Over at msearchgroove the discussion on Apps vs Web is raging. My [...]

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